Hi. I'm Claudia and I am also new to this group. Thank you Anni for including the great toe-up tutorial - it really made it easy to do the toe. What's the expression I'm looking for? Oh yes. Pride cometh before a fall. If you look closely you will see that my cables, well, look like regular old cables. How did this happen???? Fresh off knitting a cable top using the no cable needle method I was all set. Problem was I only mastered one method of the technique (C4B). No problem, right. I simply use a cable needle for the C4F and all will be good. Well, about 1.5 inches into the foot I examined what pattern was emerging - and it looked like a plain cable pattern. Turns out what I thought was a C4B technique was actually a C4F. I didn't have the heart to rip out all those cables so mine will be more of a traditional cable sock. I'm using Sundara's sock yarn/US2 needles. Quick question - I found turning the heel a little awkward on the double pointed needles - is it easier to knit toe up socks on circular needles - and if so, can anyone recommend a good brand?